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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2011, 03:56:37 AM »

Now some vintage New Years hard rock performances  Cool



"You Could Be Mine" Guns N' Roses, 1991/1992

"Livin' On A Prayer" Bon Jovi 1990/1991

"Coming Home" Cinderella, 1990/1991

"Edge Of A Broken Heart" & "Cryin" Vixen, 1988/1989
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2011, 07:29:42 AM »

Watched parts of the 1989
Halloween episode
hosted by Alice Cooper with appearances of Dave Mustaine (strapped in a straight jacket) and Dangerous Toys. Plus videos from Dokken "Dream Warriors",  Judas Priest "You've Got Another Thing Coming", Ozzy Osbourne "Bark At The Moon", Motley Crue "Looks That Kill", etc. (plus a few scrap metal)   

 Since some parts have already been blocked...



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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2011, 07:20:57 AM »

25  Favorite Power Ballads from glam metal & rock artists  Cool

From the 1980's & few early '90's

25. Great White "House Of Broken Love" (1990)
24. Whitesnake "Is This Love" (1987)
23. Cheap Trick "The Flame" (1988)
22. Def Leppard "Hysteria" (1988)
21. Slaughter "Fly To The Angels" (1990)
20. Cinderella "Nobody's Fool" (1986)
19. Kix "Don't Close Your Eyes" (1989)
18. Heart "Alone" (1987)
17. Scorpions "Still Loving You" (1984)
16. Kingdom Come "What Love Can Be" (1988)
15. Dokken "Alone Again" (1985)
14. Bon Jovi "Never Say Goodbye" (1987)
13. Cinderella "Coming Home" (1989)
12. Heart "What About Love" (1985)
11. Night Ranger "Sister Christian" (1984)
10. Def Leppard "Bringin' On The Heartbreak" (1981)
9. Guns N' Roses "Sweet Child O' Mine" (1988)
8. Aerosmith "Angel" (1988)
7. Bon Jovi "I'll Be There For You" (1989)
6. Extreme "More Than Words" (1991)
5. Poison "Every Rose Has It's Thorn" (1988)
4. Cinderella "Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone)" (1988)
3. Def Leppard "Love Bites" (1988)
2. Foreigner "I Want To Know What Love Is" (1985)
1. Motley Crue "Home Sweet Home" (1985)
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2011, 03:29:53 PM »

25  Favorite Power Ballads from glam metal & rock artists  Cool

14. Bon Jovi "Never Say Goodbye" (1987)
That was a good one.  Maybe the best power ballad of all time.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2011, 01:00:40 AM »

Frontman of the 1980's/early '90's rock bandWarrant Jani Lane recently passed away. Not really suprised considering that he have done drugs and gotten arrested for DUI several times.

All condolences to his family, friends, and fans.  Sad


(Jani Lane is in the middle holding his first wife Bobbie Brown)

Though Warrant was mediocre, "Cherry Pie" (1990) is one of my favorites videos of all time due to it's camp factor and that Bobbie Brown looked hot.

On a VH1 interview from a decade ago, Lane have stated to disliked the song "Cherry Pie" since there were songs from the second album of the same name he felt deserved more attention.


They had a few other hits such as "Heaven" & "Down Boys", both from 1989.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2011, 02:46:50 PM »

I haven't heard anything about a cause of death yet.  I can only remember the two hits that they had but both of them were big songs that got a lot of air play.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2011, 11:34:17 PM »

Worst metal albums ever according to Yahoo

Most appear to been flops, especially the long awaited Guns N' Roses  fiasco "Chinese Democracy"


I actually like the title song "Bark at the Moon" (Ozzy Osbourne)  though the ballad "So Tired" is self explanatory.  Can't say much since I don't own the album.

As for the use of keyboards, there's countless hard rock and metal bands that have used them...

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The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All Time!


10. Kiss - Music From "The Elder"

 There comes a time in every young man's life where he must confront the fact that some bands aren't meant to evolve, because when they do, they're worse. New drummer Eric Carr showed up just in time to be part of the worst album in the KISS catalog. It's a concept album, based on an idea from the man who would put his name on anything if it generated a buck, Gene Simmons. Before Loutallica, Lou Reed co-wrote three of the songs here. I guess, even crappiness takes practice!.


9. Def Leppard - Slang

 The 1980s were over. Just as big hair looked kinda dumb and dated while everyone was flyin' the flannel, so, too, did big super-precise productions sound ill-fitted for the new decade when everyone whined. So, after Adrenalize sounded tired, Def Leppard went back to basics. Even drummer Rick Allen used an acoustic kit. But no one buys Def Leppard albums for their natural tone. Metal dudes buy them because their girlfriends like them. And their girlfriends miss the grand productions like they secretly miss their big hair! Be who you are!.



8. Motley Crue - Motley Crue
 Along those lines, who buys a Motley Crue album for John Corabi? At least, the band didn't waste any good songs on their new singer. What kind of world is it where you wish Vince Neil would come back?



7. Black Sabbath - Never Say Die

 I remember how much people hated Ronnie James Dio when he first joined up with Black Sabbath. It was considered sacrilege. Who would dare take Ozzy's place in this great band? But then you listen to their last album together and you realize that it's probably a good idea if these guys start seeing less of each other. Supposedly, there already were, which is why this album sounds like no one wanted to finish it.

6. Raven - The Pack Is Back

 Raven were building a strong base back in the early 1980s, but then, like so many bands who wanted to stay employed, they listened to their record company and made this, this...thing, complete with a cover of the Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin'." Because everyone knows you break an underground metal band with a Stevie Winwood song. Stay Hard began the descent (This was a band that once headlined over Metallica and Anthrax.). But The Pack Is Back is like one of those horrible Sly Stone albums where the title tells their audience, "No, Really, We Don't Suck Anymore!" But, sadly, they do!


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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2011, 11:37:27 PM »


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5. Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark

 You really have to worry about a metal band that develops a fear of the dark. What are we, three years old? They also developed a fear of writing anything you could remember. Unlike the good ol' days where these guys sounded like they were galloping through the hills ready for war, here, they sound like they're galloping in circles trying to find who to blame for this mess..


4. Twisted Sister - Come Out and Play

 Twisted Sister were one of those bands whose records I would find in the cutout bin while they were still on the album charts. Someone wanted these guys to be huge! So much so that they had the band record a cover of "Leader of the Pack," which I guess is a step-up from an original called "Be Chrool To Your Scuel." Docked a point for writing "I Believe in Rock ‘n' Roll." Don't sing about it, fellas! Play some!

3. Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At the Moon

 There are certain rules to heavy metal that must be observed. The first rule is FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER. Let him join a progressive rock or pop band where he belongs. Back in the 1980s, you could determine a heavy metal album's terribleness by the amount of cheesy synthesizer used on it. Maybe we need to cut Ozzy some slack here. He did lose his guitar player Randy Rhoads, but then again maybe Ozzy should refund me the money I wasted on this album. 

2. Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy

 Anyone who tells you this album was "worth the wait" is likely still under contract with W. Axl Rose or trying to justify paying real money for it. After taking a century's worth of work, the album was about what you'd expect from a Guns N' Roses with no Slash, no Izzy, no Duff. If you enjoy this, you probably thought "Civil War" needed more piano.


1. Metallica - Load, Reload, St. Anger

 It's a three-way tie for first (or last, depending on how you see this). The band that defined metal for a new generation of fans sounded confused for Load, and its baby brother Reload and tinny and constipated for St. Anger. It almost makes you like the album they made with the orchestra.
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2011, 03:29:34 PM »

10. Kiss - Music From "The Elder"

 There comes a time in every young man's life where he must confront the fact that some bands aren't meant to evolve, because when they do, they're worse. New drummer Eric Carr showed up just in time to be part of the worst album in the KISS catalog. It's a concept album, based on an idea from the man who would put his name on anything if it generated a buck, Gene Simmons. Before Loutallica, Lou Reed co-wrote three of the songs here. I guess, even crappiness takes practice!.
That was not a good album at all.  They should have stuck to their guns and made the music that they were good at instead of trying to go with the flow of the times.
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 03:11:55 AM »

Truth be told, I mostly own compilation CDs  (same for other genres)


Own a copy of Led Zeppelin "II" on vinyl.  Cool


No '80's glam metal. Granted that glam or hair metal is often frowned upon, but there's no denying it's popularity  at the time and have to admit that several of the bands from Motley Crue, Ratt, Dokken, Cinderella, and even Bon Jovi have good songs and some were quite talented.

No Def Leppard!?! "High n' Dry", "Pyromania", or "Hysteria"



Honestly, should've given some more details of the albums such as it's significance or influences and perhaps some song selections.

Yahoo Top 25 Heavy Metal Albums

25. Aerosmith - Rocks
24. Uriah Heap - Look at Yourself
23. Thin Lizzy - Vagabonds of the Western World
22. Bloodrock - Bloodrock
21. Rush - Moving Pictures
20. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
19. Kiss - Alive!
18. Venom - Black Metal
17. Raven - All For One
16. Voivod - Dimension Hatross
15. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break The Oath
13. AC/DC - High Voltage & Back in Black (tie, though the article  hardly mentioned "Back in Black")
12. Blue Cheer - Vincebus Eruptum
11. Judas Priest - Stained Class
10. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
9. Led Zeppelin - II
8. Deep Purple - Machine Head
7. Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs
6. Metallica - Master of Puppets
5. Slayer - Reign In Blood
4. Van Halen - Fair Warning
3. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
2. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
1. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2012, 07:55:13 AM »

If hair metal was never popular...

Technically, hair/glam metal is more melodic/hard rock or pop-rock.

Bon Jovi? What about Def Leppard, which had a crossover with "Pryromania", Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, and to an extant Kiss & Van Halen, which many tend to take influence from.

Despite that glam/hair metal is now widely frowned upon by many, it had a wide appeal to the mainstream audience in the US. Also it appears that metal became more exposed by the media and certain watchdog groups with it's popularity.

While thrash was very much underground, especially the often kissed upon Metallica, I don't really know how popular metal was in the US in the early 1980's.  

 Granted that there was the PMRC, they also targeted Madonna & Prince (though Dee Snider of Twisted Sister testified along with Frank Zappa and John Denver).



Ironically enough, new wave also have been criticized for being more about "style over substance", though for some reason is more respected... I actually enjoy some new wave, but like all genres they have their share of the good and the bad...



Stewart from "Beavis & Butt-Head" would wear an Adam Ant shirt rather than Winger...

Honestly, I'm not sure. Though MTV gave exposure to alternative bands such as REM & Red Hot Chili Peppers towards the end of the decade.



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Subject: What if Hair Metal never took off in the 1980s?

 
In the mid 1980s, New Wave music was still around.  Bands like Simple
Minds, Tears For Fears, and the Cars, were still making synth driven
music, that was representive of the New Wave sound.  One of the big
hits in 1985, was the band A Ha's hit, "Take On Me", which was a very
new wave sound.  Heavy Metal, while around, was more underground, and
confined to heavy metal fantics, and danky clubs, at least in my view.
 Another name for the New Wave movement was the "New Romantics", which
were music bands that were about lush style, elegant lyrics, and synth
rock music.  Duran Duran was one of the leaders of the New Romantics.

All of this came to an end, in 1986, with the release of the Bon Jovi
album, "Slippery When Wet".  There was nothing breathtaking about this
album, it was a basic hard rock album with some pop touches.  However,
it was a good album, that was very catchy, which is why it got on the
radio.  With this album, according to what I have read, Heavy Metal
became mainstream, and respectable, rather then something that was
underground, and confined to stoners and clubs.  Some would say, that
this was bad for heavy metal, because it ended up becoming about style
and looks, rather then intelligence and breaking new ground.  Others
would say that since it made it more popular, that more people were
exposed to it, then if it was in it's former state.  Others would say
that the hair bands,  while some would seem to be stupid, they were
not all of the same.  White Lion for example, while very much a Hair
Band, wrote some great songs like "If My Mind Is Evil",  about
television preachers and Little Fighter, which was about a Greenpeace
ship.


My question is, what if mainstream Hair Metal never took off?  Could
the New Wave, New Romantic music scene have survived into the 90s?
Could the Grunge, Alternative Rock movement have gone mainstream
sooner, because they would not have had the Hair Metal bands to
overcome first?  What are your takes on this?
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2012, 05:49:02 AM »

The 2002 MTV special "25 Loud" was uploaded on YouTube, which was hosted by VJ Matt Pinfield along with Jimmy Kimmel, Adam Carolla (both were on "The Man Show" at the time), and Tenacious D.

Similar to VH1 countdowns/specials and other MTV countdowns around the same time, which were mostly random commentary/bad jokes with brief one minute clips.

The countdown was for the most mind boggling/out there hard rock videos from the MTV era  (heavy metal, glam, grunge, alternative, and numetal). Technically there's soo much '80's rock videos that are waaayyy over the top...  Grin Cool


Though the clips for Van Halen "(Oh) Pretty Woman" and Twisted Sister "Leader of the Pack" are bad Not in a "so-bad-it's-good" way, but just plain bad. Ironically, the Van Halen video was banned from MTV.

Majority of the selections from the mid 1990's to early 2000's are forgotten.

25. Limp Bizkit "My Way" (2001)
24. Def Leppard "Rock of Ages" (1983)
23. Godsmack "Voodoo" (1999)
22. Kittie "Charlotte" (2000)
21. Ratt "Round &? Round" (1984)
20. Stone Temple Pilots "Sour Girl" (2000)
19. Whitesnake "Still of the Night" (1987)
18.? Creed "My Sacrifice" (2001)
17. Judas Priest "You've Got Another Thing Comin" (1982)
16. Warrant "Cherry Pie" (1990)
15. Korn "Make Me Bad" (1999)
14. Vixen "Edge of a Broken Heart" (1988)
13. Twisted? Sister "Leader of the Pack" (1985)
12. Poison "Talk Dirty To Me" (1987)
11. Red Hot Chili Peppers "Give It Away" (1991)
10. Van Halen "(Oh) Pretty Woman" (1982)
9. Nine Inch Nails "Closer" (1994)
8. Hole "Doll Parts" (1995)
7. Ozzy Osbourne "Bark at the Moon" (1983)
6. Kid Rock "Welcome? 2 the Party" (1998)
5. Kiss "I Love It Loud" (1982)
4. Motley Crue "Looks That Kill" (1984)
3. Metallica "Until It Sleeps" (1996)
2. Marilyn Manson "Long Hard Road Out of Hell" (1997)
1. Guns N' Roses "November Rain" (1992)
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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2012, 09:05:02 AM »

On this day 25 years ago (April 18, 1987), "Headbangers Ball" made it's debut with Lemmy Kilmeister & Phil Taylor of Motorhead hosting the premiere episode. Unfortunately, the episode is lost (either from wiping or the 1988 fire of the MTV headquarters).

Though there's no known record of the playlist, it's rumored that Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train" was the first video shown.
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